If you don't like Hatebreed, you're not my friend. It's as simple as that. And I know who my real friends are: my bros from Vile Gash, Weedsteeler and Homage Clothing who made the trek with me to catch the Hatebreed/Cannibal Corpse show a few weeks ago. If you're too boring and old to go, here's what you missed.
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I'm guessing the Cannibals are in their 40s by now, and I can't decide whether it's sad or awesome that they've made a career out of playing death metal. They're like the death metal version of the dad from the Wonder Years. When you ask them how their latest tour is going, they just grunt and say "Eh. Work's work," and go back to killing Night Elves.
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If that's the case for you, congratulations. I'm happy for you. Unfortunately for me, I need all the help I can get. I won't lie: 2k9 has been the hardest, most painful year of my entire life by far and I've listened to Terror and Hatebreed pretty much nonstop. Sometimes your life falls apart and you need to have Jamey Jasta screaming at you that "This day is worth living." When you're as down as I've been this year, "Never succumb to the war you fight in your heart" is exactly what you need to hear. Laugh if you want, but I sincerely love Hatebreed because their songs mean a lot to me and have helped me through some seriously fucked up times just like Black Flag, Terror, and Cro-Mags do/did.
"Wait, Chuck Schuldiner was GAY?!"If that's the case for you, congratulations. I'm happy for you. Unfortunately for me, I need all the help I can get. I won't lie: 2k9 has been the hardest, most painful year of my entire life by far and I've listened to Terror and Hatebreed pretty much nonstop. Sometimes your life falls apart and you need to have Jamey Jasta screaming at you that "This day is worth living." When you're as down as I've been this year, "Never succumb to the war you fight in your heart" is exactly what you need to hear. Laugh if you want, but I sincerely love Hatebreed because their songs mean a lot to me and have helped me through some seriously fucked up times just like Black Flag, Terror, and Cro-Mags do/did.
I got this about two weeks ago and am going to get a "SMASH YOUR ENEMIES" tattoo soon. I will have not just one but TWO Hatebreed tattoos. That is how much I love Hatebreed!"They changed it, now it sucks" & "They didn't change it, so it sucks"
Another common criticism among butthurt haters is that Hatebreed's albums all sound the same. First of all, that's not really true: the latest record, for example, is by far their most blatantly "metal" album, despite remaining 100% consistent with the Hatebreed sound. Second, what's so bad about that? As long as Jamey & crew keep coming up with new breakdowns and lyrics that keep me from sticking my head in the oven, I'll always be stoked on the band. And they're fucked either way: Whenever they do introduce something new such as the Crowbar-style clean vocals on the new album, the haters hate even more.
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If you don't consider Hatebreed one of the best live bands of all time, you are a fool. Whether you like their music or not, you can't deny that they are a finely tuned mosh machine that knows how to get the party started like no other. In no particular order, here are some of my favorite parts of the show.
If you don't consider Hatebreed one of the best live bands of all time, you are a fool. Whether you like their music or not, you can't deny that they are a finely tuned mosh machine that knows how to get the party started like no other. In no particular order, here are some of my favorite parts of the show.
A la Carte Moshing: I didn't want to get all sweaty and get my leather seats all yucky, so I watched from the back of the venue and ran down to mosh it up for my favorite 3 or 4 songs (I think they were "As Diehard As They Come," "Perseverance" and "Proven"), then returned to the safety of the other old people by the bar.
Irresponsible Breakdowns: I hadn't heard any of the new songs live, and when I heard them play "Not My Master" and "Everybody Bleeds" I literally started laughing at how absurdly brutal the breakdowns were. If I was in Hatebreed and someone brought in a riff like, say, the meta-breakdown from "As Diehard As They Come" (listen to 1:30, holy fucking fuck) I think I would have to say something just to ease my conscience. "Dudes, remember that with great power comes great responsibility. We possess powers of mosh like nobody else on this planet, but we must use them wisely. I am afraid that riff is so fucking hard that people will die when we play it live. We can bring the mosh to the people for sure, but we may have their blood on our hands!!"
Mosh Platforms: Jamey had two little platforms that he would stand on, jump off of, etc. I'm guessing that he's eaten shit onstage before from standing on a monitor or whatever only to have it slide out from under his feet. They say necessity is the mother of invention, and I salute Jamey for his innovations in moshing!!
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For some reason it made me think of the band Thoughts of Ionesco. The singer/guitarist pretty much drooled anger out every time I saw them play. Perfect music for tough times.
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Sorry Sarge, too old to like that crap. I understand that they could be good in concert. I fell for that when I liked Biohazard in the 90s, but Biohazard was the last guilty pleasure. I think Hatebreed is the Biohazard of the 2000s. Their albums are fucking boring, since all the riffs are made to jump, which can be good for a concert, but boring as fuck to listen to in your stereo, specially when the songs are mid-paced. That's why Biohazard got worse and worse with time, because they forgot there were other speed besides mid-tempo. I could also add Pantera to this. I enjoyed them when I saw them in the Vulgar Display... tour, but one month after that I was sick of them and hate them ever since. That's when I realized that music that can be catchy the first time you listen to it can become your worst nightmare a month later, and started doing a better screening before buying albums.
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Michigan had a decent hardcore scene for a while, but when metal improved I lost track of what people are doing. That being said I think it's a good example of music as catharsis, and can be therapeutic/necessary during hard times.
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ReplyDeleteHey Sarge, I know they started in the 90s, but still, they started after I was totally bored by tough guys hardcore bands, and I tend to associate all the late 90s and beginning of 2000 as a "new" sound. Anyway, it doesn't change how I feel about them. There's nothing I can do to change the fact that they really bored me, but I think I can extend that to almost all hardcore bands. I thought I'd love hardcore for the rest of my life when I got into it in the early 90s, but I grew out of it and don't enjoy it nowadays. Don't know why, but it happened. However, I still love Death Metal as much as I loved it when I discovered the genre.
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ReplyDeletei loved 'under the knife' and 'satisfaction... desire'. from what i remember, 'satisfaction... desire' was, lyrically, fairly negative (well, they def never impacted me positively, like, 'omg! h8breed saved my life!').but i havent listened in a minute...
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but hatebreeds lyrics? srsly? 2nd rate, generic 'power of positive thinking' bs doesnt really do it for me. i like their earlier music a lot, and some of their later shit (hit & miss, imo, but the 'hit' is really good). but, to me, the 'you can do what you want! dont give up! all is not lost! go you!' lyrics are contrived, naive, and silly.
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Oh, and I agree with Sarge's assessment of Hatebreed 100%. Satisfaction... blew me away when I first heard it. Granted, I was in high school and I had never heard Carcass, but still... when you're going through your hardcore phase and all your friends are listening to Gorilla Biscuits and Chain of Strength, music with a little balls can be a breath of fresh air.
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